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I think the Side B vs. Side X/Y debate may have to do with a deeper disagreement among Catholics and Christians that extend to other matters as well (like non-Christian religions, or the secular culture at large). There can be the question of whether secular impulses can be worked with and “steered” in the right direction by apologetics/evangelism/conversion, or whether they should be thrown out and disparaged wholesale.

For example, your appeals to Erik Varden will be helpful from a certain perspective, but I could see a critic reading what he says and disagreeing with it, too. For example, when I saw him say “the essence of becoming chaste is not a putting-to-death of our nature”, an internal interlocutor in my head objected, because there are verses in Scripture about dying to oneself, and how the convert is a new creation, etc. The counterpoint may be that it's sin that must die, not our nature, but the deeper question and disagreement may be about just how thoroughly sin (be it original or actual, individual or cultural) corrupts our nature.

This difference can seem to manifest in apologetics as well. I'm reminded of this tweet which seems to criticize what he sees as excesses in (typologically-considered) “Side B” apologetics, of trying to steer the objector's intuitions in a Catholic direction versus emphasizing a decisive and radical change that needs to be made.

https://x.com/i/status/2064358832185249985

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